epiphone les paul standard

Discussion in 'Electric Guitars' started by mike tompson, Jul 20, 2011.

  1. mike tompson

    mike tompson New Member

    i've been really considering buyin a epiphone les paul but i've heard that they have problems with the frets actually poping off the neck and suposedly are heavy so i need some advice
     
  2. Schmucker

    Schmucker New Member

    that is definitly not true ive owned one before if it has happened to someone else then there just not taking care of there ****, they probably kept it in an un climate controlled enviornment
     
  3. Bloodhammer

    Bloodhammer New Member

    That comes from going between extremes in humidity IIRC.
     
  4. JonnyDistance

    JonnyDistance New Member

    Epiphones are really good gutiars for the price. They might have gone downhill recently, but I haven't heard of that issue. If weight is a problem, try looking up the specs of one, or try another company, like SX or ESP.

    It doesn't need to be affiliated with Gibson to be a quality instrument, trust me. I've been learning that lately.

    If you REALLY want that brand, shop around for different Les Paul models to find which one suits you, and remember you can always customize your guitar later if it's not absolutely perfect.
     
  5. I have a Epi Les Paul Custom with a Bigsby Tremolo on it. It is just as nice as a Gibson LP, but it is made overseas. Never had any problems with it, and as far as weight... it is just like a Gibson... it weighs a TON!

    If weight and cost are your concern, you may want to look into a LTD EC series... they are a nice, lighter alternative to an Epiphone, and they have them for every budget. I am not normally an LTD fan, but these are really nice!

    http://www.musiciansfriend.com/guitars/esp-ltd-ec-401vf-electric-guitar

    I also have a Gretsch LP Copy, which I prefer over the heavier Epiphone... it also has hotter pickups!
     
  6. HalfManHalfGuitar

    HalfManHalfGuitar New Member

    I had the opportunity to do some work on a student's Epiphone Les Paul the other week. I was impressed overall with the general build quality of the thing, but it was obvious that it had been made to a certain price and wasn't anywhere as tidy in its execution like a genuine Gibson Les Paul like the one I used to own back in the 90s.

    I still think they're really good value for money and the pickups have a fair deal of output too-as well as a coil tap on the pull-push volume knobs, something which I thought was a nice touch. Yes, they can be a bit heavy (as can any Les Paul) but I doubt they all have inherent fret problems -by nature.

    Like anything, it really pays to try a few in a shop and choose the best, lightest and best playing of the bunch.
     
  7. Dan

    Dan New Member

    They aren't bad. If you want one go for it, just try to play the one you want before you buy it, to see if it actually clicks with you. They do weigh quite a bit, and aren't as good (sometimes) as Gibsons, but they're still great guitars.
     
  8. Andew

    Andew New Member

    You need to try it yourself. Epiphone is good brand. If you get one for 100$ then you may have problems. Get one for about 400$ and guitar will serve you for years:)
     
  9. Agmundr

    Agmundr New Member

    I don't have a Les Paul, but I do have the G-400, and am very happy with it. It's a solid, quality instrument. I played a lot of LP's at the store, and really liked them, but I'm partial to the SG body style.
     
  10. newfunk

    newfunk New Member

  11. Alexander

    Alexander New Member

    Epiphones are okay for their price. I have a 59 with US hardware and electronics. It feels, plays and sounds similar to the Gibson LP. The Gibson is better overall certainly (I also have a Trad LP), but it is decent for 1/4th - 1/3rd the price. They are heavy, like the Gibson. But that is the price for playing a Les Paul!
     
  12. SolidFooting

    SolidFooting Member

    Y'know, a lot of luthiers still put frets in with hammers. If one did pop out, it's not the end of the world.
     
  13. MarkM

    MarkM Member

    Les Pauls are heavy, but with a good wide leather strap, it's never bothered me. The weight is why they sound so good. I own 2 Gibson LP's, but I reckon the Epi's are very good guitars for the money. If weight is a particular concern, buy an SG instead - they're much lighter and come with the same choice in pick-ups.

    I hear a lot of rumours about build quality on certain guitars, and most of them are based one bad factory run, or a few isolated instances (or nothing at all). Such problems would become noticeable fairly soon, and it's covered under warranty anyway, so I wouldn't worry about it.

    I'm not sure what your price range is, but those Gibson Les Paul Tributes are the bargain of the decade if you can stretch your budget a little.
     
  14. Eaglemoon

    Eaglemoon New Member

    I'd buy an Agile Les Paul copy from Rondomusic before I'd buy an Epi. I think they're better quality for the price.
     
  15. Voigtstr

    Voigtstr New Member

    I've got the goth version of the Epiphone Les Paul Studio. The frets are fine. A friend who owns a genuine Gibson Les Paul Studio was impressed with the tone and sustain of the Epiphone. The build quality is fine for a guitar made in China.
     
  16. MarkM

    MarkM Member

    I own a Gibson Les Paul Studio and a Standard, and I reckon the Epi's don't sound a lot different. The only big difference is in quality control, but as you say, that's covered under warranty anyway. They're a bit like Mexican Fenders - a fraction of the price, but certainly not a fraction of the quality. A good setup and you have a very nice instrument.
     
  17. dspellman

    dspellman Member

    Most Les Pauls weigh in at 8.5 - 11 pounds, and that's not a brand-specific weight. The small dense body is part of what makes for their specific sound. It's also what kept them from being very popular when they were first produced in the '50's, and it's why they were discontinued in '60. If that's too heavy for you, stick with your strat.

    Epiphones don't have problems with the frets popping off the neck. That's actually the first time I've ever heard anything like that with any guitar. I have heard of frets lifting a bit in their tang cavities (the slots); luthiers will often hammer them back down and you'll be fine. Some manufacturers glue their frets in (usually with titebond) when they build the guitars, but I don't think even Gibson is one of those; most frets these days are just press fit.

    You CAN have the frets superglued on any non-glued guitar, but you'll likely want to have your tech do the honors. It involves wicking very thin superglue into the tang cavity; there's a StewMac newsletter that covers it.Two things happen. One, you don't have the occasional flyer fret during periods of really low humidity, and Two, you end up with a more solid connection of fret to fretboard. Some folks think this affects tone in a positive way. No worries removing the fret when it's time for a refret -- heating the fret a bit will loosen the glue.

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  18. dspellman

    dspellman Member

    It's been Gibson's quality control (not Epiphone's) that's come under the most fire recently; there's usually a few threads going regarding QC issues on MyLesPaul. Obviously if you're going to spend a couple of grand on a guitar and begin finding problems, you'll have something to say about it <G>.
     
  19. dspellman

    dspellman Member

    I very much disagree, sorry. Even when the Tributes were going for really low Christmas-sale money the end of last year, I felt that Gibson was simply leaving a whole lot OUT of the guitar in order to make a price level. The only thing that propped them up wasn't workmanship, finish quality, sound, wood quality or any of that (again, in my opinion); it was the Gibson name on the headstock. Folks who couldn't afford a "real" Gibson were thrilled to be able to capture the whole nostalgia/peer approval thing cheaply. Asian guitars own the under-$1000 market and provide a lot more bang for the buck. This would be a topic for another thread (and probably a heated one).
     
  20. dspellman

    dspellman Member

    Ditto -- I'm up to three. Make no mistake, I've got a bunch of Gibsons as well, and love each one, but those dang Agiles are a ton of quality for the money.
     

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